Anyone have some suggestions on other ways to represent distance for this type of painting? - Artists2artists Social Network2024-03-19T12:25:24Zhttps://artdeadline.ning.com/forum/topics/anyone-have-some-suggestions-on-other-ways-to-represent-distance?groupUrl=critique&commentId=3077055%3AComment%3A118293&groupId=3077055%3AGroup%3A96152&feed=yes&xn_auth=noExcellent comment, Andytag:artdeadline.ning.com,2012-02-29:3077055:Comment:1250982012-02-29T09:00:36.524ZLaurel Sternberghttps://artdeadline.ning.com/profile/LaurelSternberg
<p>Excellent comment, Andy</p>
<p>Excellent comment, Andy</p> Hi Eric, I'm wondering what i…tag:artdeadline.ning.com,2012-02-28:3077055:Comment:1249662012-02-28T19:25:54.473ZAndy Yorkhttps://artdeadline.ning.com/profile/AndyYork
<p>Hi Eric, I'm wondering what it is you are truly trying to achieve? As a painting, is your true goal to be as realistic as possible? Is this a work in progress or is it finished? What is it in the distance you are trying to achieve? Is it wanting to separate the fence and crows from the rest of the landscape? Are you trying to create more depth from foreground to background within the background landscape? It helps me to quantify all of my goals so I know what I'm trying to get. It helps me…</p>
<p>Hi Eric, I'm wondering what it is you are truly trying to achieve? As a painting, is your true goal to be as realistic as possible? Is this a work in progress or is it finished? What is it in the distance you are trying to achieve? Is it wanting to separate the fence and crows from the rest of the landscape? Are you trying to create more depth from foreground to background within the background landscape? It helps me to quantify all of my goals so I know what I'm trying to get. It helps me know when a work is finished as well.</p>
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<p>If you want to just separate the crows and fence from the background, all you need to do is blur the background some more. If you want the background to have more depth, blur the farthest mountains slightly and add more blue, which gives the illusion of depth (in the photographic sense).</p>
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<p>Good stuff, I want to know what the crows are thinking?</p> Part of the distant landscape…tag:artdeadline.ning.com,2012-02-04:3077055:Comment:1224082012-02-04T17:16:39.249ZDarlene Yeager-Torrehttps://artdeadline.ning.com/profile/DarleneYeagerTorre
<p>Part of the distant landscape (right) is softer in appearance, as it should be, but that does not carry across the plane to the left of the birds. May I suggest that, as the landscape gets farther in the distance, the intensity of color should begin fade but not drop off as quickly as seen on the right side here. Then carry that across the entire background plane. Hope this helps as the foreground is so nicely rendered.</p>
<p>Part of the distant landscape (right) is softer in appearance, as it should be, but that does not carry across the plane to the left of the birds. May I suggest that, as the landscape gets farther in the distance, the intensity of color should begin fade but not drop off as quickly as seen on the right side here. Then carry that across the entire background plane. Hope this helps as the foreground is so nicely rendered.</p> I'm going to seem like a rebe…tag:artdeadline.ning.com,2012-02-03:3077055:Comment:1221112012-02-03T14:55:50.895ZDawn Fettyhttps://artdeadline.ning.com/xn/detail/u_05m5n6ytl12jc
<p>I'm going to seem like a rebel...but just OWN the piece...take the advice if it really bothers you. I have seen great works that have broken rules...and sometimes you can't do something great if you follow everything...just be brave and do what YOU think you need to do if anything. People will ALWAYS have advice. There will always be hundreds of things you could do differently..It's art because it's YOURS...if you paint for everyone else....I'd best stop... I think the painting is very…</p>
<p>I'm going to seem like a rebel...but just OWN the piece...take the advice if it really bothers you. I have seen great works that have broken rules...and sometimes you can't do something great if you follow everything...just be brave and do what YOU think you need to do if anything. People will ALWAYS have advice. There will always be hundreds of things you could do differently..It's art because it's YOURS...if you paint for everyone else....I'd best stop... I think the painting is very good. The crows are strong enough to grab you and your fence post and bright light moves you around ( for me anyway). </p> I think it is a wonderful pai…tag:artdeadline.ning.com,2012-02-03:3077055:Comment:1216032012-02-03T11:58:54.968ZMarcia Hugheshttps://artdeadline.ning.com/profile/MarciaHughes
<p>I think it is a wonderful painting let down by the composition and colour of the background.Had the horizon been much lower the crows would stand out even more against the pale sky.The background colour doesn't complement the colour of the fence so spoils the brilliant attention to detail.</p>
<p>I always try to remember 1/3 landscape to 2/3 sky,or the other way round and avoid the painting being in two halves.</p>
<p>I think it is a wonderful painting let down by the composition and colour of the background.Had the horizon been much lower the crows would stand out even more against the pale sky.The background colour doesn't complement the colour of the fence so spoils the brilliant attention to detail.</p>
<p>I always try to remember 1/3 landscape to 2/3 sky,or the other way round and avoid the painting being in two halves.</p> Don't think you could do any…tag:artdeadline.ning.com,2012-01-13:3077055:Comment:1196102012-01-13T14:07:49.553ZGavin Mayhewhttps://artdeadline.ning.com/profile/GavinMayhew
<p>Don't think you could do any better. Great. Where is Edgar Alan Poe?</p>
<p>Don't think you could do any better. Great. Where is Edgar Alan Poe?</p> In the case of a picture like…tag:artdeadline.ning.com,2012-01-11:3077055:Comment:1186722012-01-11T15:15:12.109ZDoug Bairdhttps://artdeadline.ning.com/profile/DougBaird
<p>In the case of a picture like this [with objects in the near foreground, and the rest at some distance] it would probably help to "detach' the foreground from the background as much as possible. The darker, blue shadows next to the left hand crow's beak and body are "pulling" it to the background, and it would be a help to remove them. Also, the dark shadows on the right side of the picture are a hindrance - dragging your eye there and reinforcing the horizontal nature of the background, and…</p>
<p>In the case of a picture like this [with objects in the near foreground, and the rest at some distance] it would probably help to "detach' the foreground from the background as much as possible. The darker, blue shadows next to the left hand crow's beak and body are "pulling" it to the background, and it would be a help to remove them. Also, the dark shadows on the right side of the picture are a hindrance - dragging your eye there and reinforcing the horizontal nature of the background, and not the vertical nature of the birds and pole shadows - you can check this by covering it up with your finger. Lightening the background a little where it contacts the foreground objects is also an effective way to get some distance into the picture. As to the question of fading detail with distance - the eye, unlike the camera, has no depth of field problems, so I would think that the viewing would be quite detailed for a considerable distance in this kind of landscape and would add more detail - especially in the nearer background at the bottom of the picture. This is all intended to be constructive criticism, and I hope it has been some help. It takes courage to put your out for critique.</p> yes , by using a bigger brush…tag:artdeadline.ning.com,2012-01-11:3077055:Comment:1187582012-01-11T04:35:04.603ZSkip Mckeehttps://artdeadline.ning.com/profile/SkipMckee
<p>yes , by using a bigger brush stroke or size of brush as objects apear closer to the view. Kind of a 3D effect. It may not apply to this type of painting. I like the painting as it sits now.</p>
<p>yes , by using a bigger brush stroke or size of brush as objects apear closer to the view. Kind of a 3D effect. It may not apply to this type of painting. I like the painting as it sits now.</p> "The Notebooks of Leonardo Da…tag:artdeadline.ning.com,2012-01-05:3077055:Comment:1182932012-01-05T22:52:53.004ZMichael Hillermanhttps://artdeadline.ning.com/profile/MichaelHillerman
<p>"The Notebooks of Leonardo Da Vinci", Volume 1 covers this issue plus many others for painting. </p>
<p>"The Notebooks of Leonardo Da Vinci", Volume 1 covers this issue plus many others for painting. </p> hello Eric....these crows are…tag:artdeadline.ning.com,2012-01-04:3077055:Comment:1183972012-01-04T17:44:35.020ZAdrian Setterfieldhttps://artdeadline.ning.com/profile/AdrianSetterfield
<p>hello Eric....these crows are so realistic and they measure up with the rendering of the fence pole. The background seems to become sketchy though...perhaps it needs more definition with line and color instead of the white haze which does no justice to the masterly rendition of the crows. It gives the impression that you have painted on top of a photograph...man, those crows are so good...in essence too.</p>
<p>hello Eric....these crows are so realistic and they measure up with the rendering of the fence pole. The background seems to become sketchy though...perhaps it needs more definition with line and color instead of the white haze which does no justice to the masterly rendition of the crows. It gives the impression that you have painted on top of a photograph...man, those crows are so good...in essence too.</p>